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Real life MoLEP case number 10: large prostate (190 grams) in retention

Dr. Fernando Gómez Sancha · ICUA

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Real life MoLEP case number 10: large prostate (190 grams)  in retention

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An uninterrupted, unedited MoLEP in a patient with urinary retention after an unsuccessful trial without a catheter. A transabdominal ultrasound estimated the prostate size at 190 grams, and the description records a previous negative biopsy performed for elevated PSA. The operation used a MOSES holmium laser 120 W system.

This video shows the uninterrupted and unedited MoLEP case (MOSES HoLEP) of a man who had lower urinary tract symptoms and who had been submitted to a prostate biopsy for a high PSA, which came back as negative (no cancer). Later on, he developed an impossibility to void (urinary retention) that was treated with a bladder catheter. A trial without catheter was unsuccessful. A transabdominal ultrasound estimated a prostate size of 190 grams. We decided to perform an endoscopic enucleation of the prostate using the MOSES Holmium laser 120 W system, that provides excellent hemostasis in such cases.

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Real life MoLEP case number 10: large prostate (190 grams) in retention
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Real life MoLEP case number 10: large prostate (190 grams) in retention
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Real life MoLEP case number 10: large prostate (190 grams) in retention
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  1. no mi Cielo Alto no nunca nunca llamas Harold  manga estamos ok so let's do this case now this is a 62 year old man who had a biopsy for  a PSA of 10 but he has a very very large gland he estimated 190 grams of static volume so  coming in I don't want to force at all the entry into the bladder so I don't want to damage the  sphincter here anteriorly so we will start with the dissection as I said this man had a biopsy  later on well the Vives he was negative he had a retention of urine he had what's catheterize and  they tried to remove the catheter with our success we're getting ready with the moses fiber and i'm  going to start you can see the external urinary sphincter there's some damage from the catheter  this whitish area here it's decubitus from the
  2. from the catheter I'm going to mark the lower  aspect the lower aspect of the adenoma here I'm clearly I'm going in a little bit further because  the stings resisted it tilted forward we want to respect the most until your part okay let's see  and coming down towards this area we can protect the string too from the very beginning this is  the the white line and I like to touch the fibers here you see the posterior attachments there are  no ma I've had a little bit deeper so when we do the entry into the plane we will not damage the  the sinker in the lower part just a small incision here you see sometimes visibility is not so good  but now we have marked the white line and have a very nice idea of the limits between the sphincter  and the adenoma this side I'm going to say deepen
  3. a little bit this incisions so we have better  access and better protection of the external United stinker I think the focus is probably not  proper let's get better focus here there we go we use this same camera for course radiation stone  procedure and sometimes I find that the purposes has been changed and there we are so now we are  going to enter the nucleation plane you can see the very Montanan here so I'm going to incise the  mimosa it's not necessarily you know blicket or e22 in size the mcourser but it helps a little bit  to break in the plane mechanically with the tip of the scope as you can see with minimal minimal  pressure so that's the identification of the plane in this side is some bleeder the mucosal  better let's go to the other side we'll in size
  4. the mucosal as well coming back to where the white  line was marked and then I will do a little bit of pressure very very gentle pressure to try to find  let's say the good a good plane mechanically here we can see minimal process considerations which  usually correspond to the to the right plane okay so now we're going to cut and communicate both  sides cut the on top of the very montana the pendulum of the very and try to unify the Asteria  plane so initially it's normal to have to struggle a little bit with visibility with this approach  but it gets better and better throughout the procedure now this is all posterior aspect you can  see we have connected both sides we have connected both sides so now I'm going to put the fiber at 12  o'clock and we will do a let's say dissection of
  5. the posterior plane so we have to try to stay  let's say follow this line of attack despite having a big clams I'm not finding the plane  very very beautiful let's see it looks good to me that could be because of chronic inflammation  so carefully you see I'm trying to develop this posterior plane and to follow the the  white line the beautiful mostest energy you can see it allows me to dissect the plane and  correlate at the same time and quality of the status that we are obtaining is quite good  you see that tissue is blanching everywhere so despite using settings of 250 you see  the reach of the energy is much further with the double pulse two consecutive  pulses first one opens let's say the
  6. bubble the second one travels through  the bubble without attenuation that's a nodule I'm ready to try to take it out you  can see that with some little nodal there see we can just take it with the first day  as I said the mostess effect has mostess technology fires' to consecutive pulses the  first pulse opens the bubble second pulse travels through the bubble so the reach of the  energy is much better here you see the plane is getting a little bit thin so we'll have to  be careful there maybe if they continue firing a little bit closer to the Nama so we don't  go too deep in the in the plane that for some reason in this case is not very very beautiful  as one expects in a very large glance typically
  7. very large glance are very good let's say  planes very very nicely developing planes but in this case and sometimes that means that  you're not in a good good plane sometimes you are let's say a little bit deeper than you  or you have to be vigilant and careful but sometimes you can let's say reconnect with  the proper plane later on in the operation sometimes there's no other plane this looks  very good this looks very typical we are more or less at the same depth sometimes one  millimeter difference in depth can they mean that you are in a good plane or or not but  well sometimes we can see the ejaculatory ducts let's see here do we have here so typically I  have I developed a posterior plane until I am
  8. let's say comfortable I don't force anything  just continue with a dissection while you are let's say doing it easily and happily don't  force towards the sides or don't try to reach the bladder neck from the first goal I think we  do that you have to do some pressure against the tissue and if you remember what you're going  to try to do a very early apical release in the operation so that's just to generate some  space we come back to the stinker you can see this is the sphincter this is the white line you  see the posterior aspect has been detached but we still have to detach all this so initially  I'm going to cut only Anoma you see I want to make a cut because this basically releases the  epics from the sphincter that's just a maneuver
  9. you see it's not the good plane it's not the  best plane just I want to detach the sphincter and I want to gain some access if you can bring  let's say this incision all the way up is good and now we're going to go in the good plane you  see but of course by detaching the sphincter we have to improve the situation there are some small  bleeders there would be nice if we could control them but I don't want to force the instrument Oh  huh let's see that's the good plane let's develop this and they'll be towards the previously  dissected posterior plane you see we are here there we are it's always good to dissect a  little bit further away because it gives you some mobility here I'm going to continue but I'm  going to be very conscious of the white line of
  10. my position in relationship to the sphincter  so we want to stay under the sphincter and as you go up we tend to cut horizontally  so you don't cut into the sphincter so it's very progressive maneuver where you  progress your dissection upwards slowly like this slowly upwards hey no se mueva yep I saw resent it on the little  s think we are not supporting the Heartless volts have already sold Ella LSP Dolores a police a  kind so we love to vote all right okay sorry one bag went on the floor and it gave me a  little bit of a pool on on the end of scope when I was a little bit it's always strange when  this things happen okay so let's continue we are progressing and clearly one of the nicest let's  say features of Moses I think it's the improved
  11. cutting capabilities you see this is the 12  o'clock area we marked we're coming around here so here I'm cutting horizontal I want to  get too close to the center and because once we get inside when once we are at this level after  cutting horizontally we will look up and find the good plane find there the better plane you see the  plane is probably a little bit further up so very gently and very carefully we're going to progress  releasing initially the most distal attachments we can you see if you release the distal attachments  then you have access to the rest what you don't want to do is to become let's say dissect a lot  for example here go all the way to the bladder and I can leave let's say the rest of the apex  attached so we want to cut very very initially
  12. very very fast we want to cut the attachments of  the ethics from to the sphincter that's the 12 o clock area you see that's 12 o clock and as I said  one of the nicest aspects of Moses is that you're dissecting the ethics the cutting properties are  very good so you don't have to do many many passes to achieve to cut these fibres you see these  vertical fibres we find here at 12 o clock they need to be cut so with Moses you can do several  passes but each pass produces a notable effect so whereas with the classical home you cutting  this fibers month might be a little more difficult so or they take more passes then  we are coming down you see that we are very carefully dissecting everything try to correct  I mean to carry a good paper status as you go
  13. because if we go a little bit carefully and  we do have a status as we go by the time we finish the operation how much this will be very  solid and we can move on very fast to modulation here you see I'm coming up up up up now I'm  not afraid of damaging the sphincter because initially we cut some for example fibers and  there we are sometimes you can get fooled here and cut through there Noma I'm not follow the  good plain so you have to come lateral look for the good reference and all that playing all the  way up and it has it needs a little bit of work couple of fibers there's some leader there  also the irrigation is compromised in such a small space so now that we are progressing a  little bit more I'm going to take the dissection
  14. a little bit further it's typical of  these cases to have a very very thin gutter these men have very big enormous and  very thin capsules but if you stay in the plane if you stay in a good interface between  adenomas and capsule it's it's very very safe despite being thin the capsule has  this leather like let's say leather like resistance no it's like the leather on a  belt no it would be difficult to cut through it there we are I'm trying to come  up Thank You Kari the good colonel status let the laser do its work opening  the plane and providing good population usually the ethical dissection takes a little  while especially in large process like this but then it pays off the rest of the procedure once  you have liberated the epics and you can move
  15. circumferentially around the prostate you can then  progress very fast especially with Moses I think there's some bleeder there see one of the  nice things of this approach is compared to the thrill of approaches that we are relocating  a very small space so even when there is bleeding you see it it clears very fast because the  irrigation is very efficient if you have a connection to the bladder early in the procedure  if you if you enucleate the middle lobe then the water is going to irrigate not only the area where  you're working but the blood is going to go in the bladder and then washing out the blood is going  to be much more difficult so here we irrigate a very very small space so here I think we have  to come up up up let's see what does it take us
  16. these are very very tall prostates not only long but also tolls you have to be able to  come up all the way to try to dissect the planes properly okay voice without forcing anything or doing  a lot of course with the endoscope just careful careful manipulation okay I'm going  to advance on the other side so I'm going to do something very similar and then once both  sides are developed I will try to take connect anteriorly you see that's the 12 o'clock  area this is the other lobe here we have the white line and here we have the distinct  ER there's some cloth here so I'm going to fire against the cloth so it clears and we can  see a little bit better I'm probably there was a small mucosal bleeder there and here's the  edge of the sphincter here's the white line
  17. yes you can see going up so I'm going to say  cut as I said on the Anoma trying to deepen a little bit this incision but I will follow the  curve all the way up you see towards 12 o'clock if I if I fire on the white area I know that  there's no going to be any problem with the sphincter you see that's the sphincter behind  by cutting this I'm doing is releasing the epics from the sphincter then I have to respect the  pause outside and come towards 12 o'clock and then this is going to give me that's a better  access let's see what we have here it's like the flame there I mean this direction this  would be the good plane this would be the good plane but here before developing the  good plane I'm going to continue cutting
  18. on the Anoma this will give me access huh it's  a very large London you have to liberate this thing's are very well before we move on to  develop this this this plane okay so here we are I'm going to take it like I did on the  other side a little bit further so the lower portion of the ethics can open up a little  bit and you see show me the way a little bit better huh here again you see we still have  attachments so carefully I'm going to cut them to protect this thing that we want to  protect the sphincter this this men huh is very very large plan so  gradually I'm going to gain access there liberating the apical from posterior - interior see there what do we have  there that's 12 o clock it's important
  19. I'd like to keep the fiber at 12 o clock  so have a good orientation you see that the anomaly is quite big it will ask  us it will you'll have to go up up up it's all whites on quite complete confidence there is no deal there I have  some problems of access with the leg of the patient this process  are large and some daily conflicts I hope I can solve it but it's coming  around now in this way bring it up there we are I think if you want to do very  large lands you have to have a good command a good a good command of the classic order let's say  that technique in a smaller glance I think natural and surround it with more difficult as always  you have to have good equipment you have good equipment then everything is much easier we have  very nice and also I think it's very important to
  20. have a good team and very very reassured when  I work with my specialized nurses who can help me really well when things get difficult time  if there's a problem with Malaysian or they are very very fast to react it makes our life  much much easier ok so here I am connecting I think entirely from one side to the other side  I'm going to try to follow now that upper most plane if I can find it so I don't leave adenomas  anteriorly as I said once we come to this point the rest of the operation is going to be rather  easy because you just have to go around the Anoma and see if I can develop some space  so the endoscope can let's say enter this place and push the Nama a little bit  downwards because that opens up the plane
  21. makes it more accessible see where are  we coming from this side you see if we truly connected or not this some I'm not to  stitch you there we want to go all the way up it opens up this is where we're coming from the other  side so it's quite good I think there is a big nodule here optical interior on the  left side we have to try to overcome huh sometimes if it's difficult from one side  you have to try it from the other side so having the epics let's say release from  this thinker if you have difficulties let's say reaching the uppermost plane coming from  below on one side maybe you can do it from a ball from the other side so that's that's  more that's a surgical strategy which is common to other operations you cannot reach  your objective on one side maybe from the
  22. other side it will be somewhat easier here I'm  trying to get my fiber as interior as possible you see if I get in this plane from this side I'm going to dissect a little bit more  maybe the prostate will come down will descend a little bit and then we can  progress with the rest the operation there we are see the endoscopes we use not always let us see  what we're doing with the fiber but I'm quite confident if if I'm following the right line you  see this is usually a circumferential line coming this way I have some clues that the anatomy is  correct you see those fiber they're parallel to my trajectory I can I can tell the plane is ok  and even if there's some say tissue of tract in my view for a moment I can just continue the arc  of movement movement even when I don't see you
  23. see here like now for example I don't see but  I know that I'm not doing anything crazy I'm just following the right plane trying to gain  some millimeters this is a battle to gain one millimeter more one millimeter more you see as the  prostate is the sectored from the capsule there is better mobility of the aroma reminds me very much  of a robotic radical prostatectomy you you have to release the prostate from its attachments  and then it becomes more mobile and easier so here we are coming up up up up all  the way up you see it's a very very large prostate gland here I  want to remain up up up all the way you see this is no deal here  will hopefully descend progressively and I will be able to you see that it's starting  to detach itself from the interior part I hope
  24. I can go around it and touch it completely  you know let's see let's see what happens as I said sometimes coming from the other side  can help you okay so here we are that I like the quality of the tissue I have evolved this  side is much better let's say the touched on the other side so we're going to insist a little  bit on coming up here we touch this until your apical nodule see if we can gain basically  access as I said I'm not worried about this thinker anymore draw the figure I know I know  now that these patients they got normal posture pretty continuous because we were releasing  the thinker very early and this is the final you see the final detachment of this nodule it  was quite difficult to get up there from from
  25. here you see what's not not so easy but we took  it from the other side now I hope things will get easier let's follow our previous line  of dissection you see the line of attack and now the main thing is you have to position  your fiber firing more or less against the line of attack you have to receive a good feedback  from the tissue you know if it touches nicely if you don't see very deep let's say planes  on the capsule then you can continue in this depth we think you're penetrating a little bit  more than normal or more than you shoot then you have to correct your targeting so instead of  targeting against the line of the target you target a little bit further inside it's a matter  of dissecting the plane and checking how things
  26. are progressing if you're satisfied with what you  see and of course you have to take into account that's sometimes the prostate is not like a sphere  it's quite irregular there are no deals sometimes there are no deals that grow into the capsule so  but if you're careful if you have a good dynamic let's say that movement I have to say that I move  my fiber much slowly err when I do the very large glance because I want to have a better handle  status as I go as I progress you see that's quite nice and assesses for the moment if I could  go faster but then maybe the quality of Emma status would be compromised and then  I would have to spend more time at the end of the procedure trying to get a good  mysticism oscillation so I think it's time
  27. efficient to carry out a very careful  dissection with very nice homeostasis because at the end of the initiation phase which  is not very far now we can then move on to more slate very fast yeah we are you see that's the  interior plane there's a beautiful plane let's try to carry the dissection more or less symmetrically  I want to I want to go very deep on one side and not so deep on the other side because then it  becomes a little more difficult I want to keep more or less the same depth of dissection if I can  because that makes the procedure easy when I teach people what I realized is that many times they  make their life very complicated because of their say bad strategy so you have to be a good have  a good strategy and plan what you want to do of
  28. course you find that one plane is very difficult  and your it's better to go somewhere else and continue dissection because difficult becomes  easier when you have liberated more tissue you know it's more evident the anatomy of the prostate  gets more apparent easier to understand and then you can let's say move on to the difficult area  which won't be so difficult anymore but in general I think if you can parry a nice structured  dissection good hemostasis as you go then the procedure is very very safe and also very fast  see that's the interior plain we are unclear to the nominal coming down to the other side checking  that we cut the attachments we carry a nice let's say playing nice dissection very regular I don't  know why man progress huh so here of course if
  29. you think about the prostate as a tennis ball  you cannot continue going up up up all the time you have to adjust to the Anatomy right it's a  very very structure so you have to go around it I have to say I think Moses is probably one of  the nicest developments I have seen in laser technology recently because really chuckling the  large lamps was much more stressful before I think having Moses makes you I mean face this cases with  relative ease here we are seeing something very important you see these are circular fibers here  we're seeing straight five fibers going from you see vertical fiber so that's the in equivocal  sign that we are in the bladder already so I'm going to go like that to open up a communication  see now probably 80% of the contact surface of the
  30. UNAM on the cut on the capsule have been already  dissected the chance for significant bleeding is very reduced and here I am opening the bladder  neck anteriorly this is a very very important moment it means that we will be able to finish  the case very nicely there we are that's the other side you see some large prostate very wide  prostate very tall process but we are performing the nucleation from totally you know calm and  easy no stress just progressing at a pace that it's comfortable and not too fast not too slow  trying to understand the anatomy and trying to make things better every minute we are so you see and to me it was also a good  discovery that I could keep the fiber static 12
  31. o clock for this procedure you see I don't have  to move my hands too much and just concentrated on ambulation of the scope and depth not so much  on rotating the scope or rotating the fiber also the camera you know doesn't have to move if  it's the same let's say relative position with the scope than done before all right so that's  posterior plane here sometimes you have to let's say negotiate your way into the to the right plane  and here we're going to follow here in this part of the procedure it becomes more important to keep  the fiber targets the fiber against the normative edge of the line of attack not so much against  the line but to keep it close to the adenoma you see if you keep it close to the Anoma the plane  will dissect but you will not go deep in the in
  32. the capsule so and also I tend to separate the  fiber a little bit more from the line of attack in the sense that I'm not firing right on it but on  the anomalous side not so far not so close so it doesn't penetrate the capsule but just I wanted to  cut the attachments you see ya see so very careful let's the laser how would I say it blow on the  tissue is like blowing blowing let the energy reach there and do its job cuts the attachments  perform hemostasis and let it do the work very gently very gently very gently as I said if you if  you strategy sound it will move very fast through these cases and you will be able to operate large  plants in a reduced amount of time with a very good post-operative recovery we have seen these  patients well they go home the next morning even
  33. when they have very large lungs typically when  I'm waiting for the patient I we have a computer medical record theatres medical record and so what  I do is I write the anamnesis for the patient and I write already the orders for tomorrow morning  and the orders are more morning wash out the the bladder with a syringe extracts clothes from the  bladder and then withdraw the balloon so deflate the balloon and then wash so withdraw the catheter  three centimeters so the tip of the catheter goes into the prostatic fossa and wash the pasta many  times there are plots in the fossa and when you watch the fossa these cloths come out and then  of course they before they remove the catheter definitively they put 250 milliliters of saline  in the bladder and this way when we remove the
  34. catheter the patient has a desire to avoid very  fast and once they avoid the first time they are psychologically convinced they can pee and  they've avoid for a couple of times before they go home to make this process even faster what we  do is we give them a frozen it I'll see you all on this side so we are quite let's say quite  safe here this is a bladder neck I'm going to continue with my dissection check again I'm going  to go in to check again the position of the UO it's far away huh so here you see that's the edge  of the bladder neck in the middle lobe we are now entering below the middle lobe so typically the  next morning and as I said while I'm waiting for the patient I'm writing this already because I  know these patients are very monotonous in the
  35. post-operative period you know they they tend  to avoid normally and they go home typically I prescribe them an anti-inflammatory drug I give  them gastric protection as well and we give them an antibiotic for one week we before when we only  did the single shot before the operation we would see these patients having orchitis and problems  possibly seems to to work pretty well so also in catheterized patients I like to I'm very  very probably say that the maniac of checking the urine cultures preoperatively typically we  send the urine of Kathryn categorized patients for culture and we even change the catheter  and send the tip of the catheter for culture and when we get the result of the culture and  the antibiogram we prescribe antibiotics at
  36. least four days before the operation because the  worst complication of endoscopic surgery sepsis and we want to avoid that at all costs  so we're very very anal about checking you know the poulterer's and prescribed  appropriate antibiotics before the operation but if we follow this let's say precautions and  rules we can perfectly treat these patients in a very brief interaction in the operating room  typically under one hour let's see how this how long this operation takes but I'm I don't  think it will take much more than an hour I hope we shouldn't and then next morning they  go home and we see them after a month course they have my phone they can reach me if they  want typically they have only minor problems
  37. also we educate them very well in the sense that  they know what to expect they know that Olivia hematuria is normal the first days especially at  the beginning of the stream they know that they can have some discomfort at the end of oiling  we know these things and if they know them they don't call them hold you so much they know how  to interpret this this symptoms okay so now there are no mice hanging from a very very little  piece of tissue here this is the bladder neck this is you see the middle lobe base already and  then still attached to the the capsule here okay I'm coming around it coming around it towards the  latter neck you see that's middle of large glands we are now coming below the adenoma you know Moses  makes this case is beautiful because there's so
  38. much less bleeding and very nice into us is rather  to see here we can really focus on an anatomy and strategy and all these things so I have to say  I really really love it especially for the very large gland so if you want to do smaller glance  low-power or whatever it's not it's not a worry but for the very large glance I think no power  is probably insufficient you struggle much more with what's the nodule in the bladder and that's  the last attachment you see I'm going to put my favorite six o'clock this is the lobe running  in the bladder this is the last attachment the middle lobe to the bladder neck here the operation  is almost finished now I think this is just middle of attachment six o'clock and I have tilted the  prostate in the bladder already many people think
  39. that enloc is not good for large lands but it's  not true you can perfectly tilt the enormous even when they're very large you see in the in the  bladder that we are so how long did it take Maria 50 minutes 50 minutes okay so 50 minutes for a  nucleation now it's quite long operation for me of course this is a very large plan typically we  need 80 cases with Moses prospectively and mean operative time is 20 minutes for a volume of 70  grams or something like that so I mean prostate volume ascending runs so that's the that's the  that's all within enzyme areas but in general we followed a very good plane that is probably just  Leatherneck I don't think that's so relevant it's just a little nick here remove this little bit  so it doesn't grow bigger later on I'm going to
  40. put my fiber again 12 o'clock and try to lift it  lift it up maybe we left a bit of tissue there so this is the trimming phase once you finish  your inoculation you have to say check that everything you did was okay the hemostasis is  good we didn't leave a lot of tissue behind and where we are shaking we don't get too close to the you all I  don't think so let's see [Music] there's a you all here this is little higher up see if you you  think you left a note ill it's better to take it out there you go so it doesn't grow later on let's  come out and see what happens to this thinker you see this is this thing Tarek area this is where we  marked our white line going this way you see all around here so we had a very nice preservation  of this finger this a little bit of mechanical
  41. let's say trauma to the to the to this thing but  that's quite reasonable to see in this very large glance I'm going to use the ovulation mode now  let's see then sometimes the full power mode is a little bit faster for population you have to  tailor the distance you see the you go little bit further away and the effect is very good  it's not much bleeding but it's a big wound and just check or there's no big leader anywhere just checking the quality of emphasis here  improving so you can do a fast Malaysian without troubles post by bad vision that's quite  good oh I see water is good ok so that's another net let's populate a little bit around here  many times we get mucosal bleeders at the edge but it's nice to be able to travel it it was  even there are a very small vessel sometimes they
  42. can secure visibility you think about it when  you are doing more solution you're closing the airflow and you're only sucking out water from  the tip of the morcellator blade so the thing is this very poor circulation of water in the bladder  mostly it's a full bladder with very low exchange rate and if there is a bleeder going on you know  after 20 minutes the quality of the visibility can be severely impaired I don't see any major  bleeder just some areas where there is some red let's see where we are okay so let's move on  to more solution now once again I'm going to check yours one you always find the other  you always find it's more slaves believe numbers not deltas you can be on my foot  so we're going to elevate a little bit the
  43. irrigation bags and I'm going to use new  bags because I want to make sure that we have a good irrigation throughout the procedure  and I'm making a change now to use the nephron scope the Morse's cope to do the modulation  so this is the now this is a microscope has enough room a channel big enough to accept the  blades that's the bladder neck is going to be my reference there in oscillation so I'm  going to put my most later here and then lower my hands and then start with the  modulation one of the major advantages well major developments in anatomic  a nucleation of the prostate is the development of the fast muscle ators I  think it changes everything you know you can take you can do I mean if this is let's  say 100 grams 120 grams 150 grams it should
  44. take us 10 to 15 minutes to to take it out  we measured a mean let's say efficiency of oscillation of 11 grams per minute in a study  and for sometimes you can have most elation trouble problems but generally speaking  it's a very fast part of the procedure in my experience when the apex is easier  to develop due to release completely at the beginning the rest of the operation is very fast  so I think the difference in time of operation is dictated more by the difficulty of the apical  liberation done by the rest I think going around the Nama circumferentially is quite easy and  fast also even when the prostate is very large doesn't take too long of course looking after  the sphincter is the most important aspect
  45. so let's see how it goes you see that I like to  keep the most later blade a little bit inside many people are afraid of martial ating and  damaging the bladder and they work like this you see sometimes the Anoma can clash with the  tip of the spoke and so they have it very close it won't engage properly and you ask yourself  why and that's because the tip of the endoscope is pushing their normal way it's there's no  way that their Norma will reach where you are placing the tip so a little bit inside is  good also you see that we have the image split in two parts the parts the interior parts and  the posterior part the interior parts is all white let's say Anoma the posterior part has of  course the blade in the middle and in the sides
  46. there are two triangles and these are the safety  triangles you see if you see them like this pink you have to bring your you have to bring your  hand your hands then you can come here to fish but then you see you have to elevate your  hands to to get away from the rudder wall so if you see the triangles now are black it  means that we are separated from the lateral wall so it's a safety and as a precaution if you  work very close to the scope like this there's very little information to tell you where you  are because almost all of the screen is white there we are sometimes this big enormous clash  with the bladder clash with the bladder neck and they disengage from the morcellator blades  but in general they are quite juicy you know
  47. they are let's say the tissue is soft and  easy to modulate there we are another say rules of oscillation is that you don't rotate  the mouth of the Marcia later as in people you know more slating with very mean disregarding  this advice and I think it's more dangerous you can it's more easy to catch the bladder  you see if if you rotate your your window you see if you work here for example close to the  bladder it's not dangerous but if you work like that you see with the mouth so close to the  mucosa it's going to be much more dangerous so keep the keep the mouth looking up once you  fish there normal lower your hands of the tip of the spoke the most later goes up and away  from the bladder wall this not so efficient
  48. modulation I don't know why I mean it's eating  tissue is chewing tissue quite well but lots of moments where it disengages that can happen  because they you see that tubing that carries the tissue all the way to the retrieval basket  can get obstructed with tissue you know if if the piece is too big to swallow let's say there  can be momentary blockages of the pipes and what happens is the suction is not not reaching the  tip of the morcellator and then of course the tissue disengages from there from the jaws of the  blades see like now there is some problem with engagement they'll go down before there is a  disengagement button on the banana modulator so my nurse is helping me and if we notice you know  laa-laa okay no if we notice that there's these
  49. engagements like this she presses this button and  that usually unclogs the pipes sometimes you have to take the most later blade out and check the  most later blade and the motor to check that there's no tissue blocking there sometimes the  blockage is so firm that you have to irrigate it with the need with a syringe and some saline and  then you continue or remorse later of course you have to know that these operations are successful  when you work in a team if you have a nice person helping you with your instrument changes with  a fiber if there's any trouble interpretive ly you can get good help and readily available  then these procedures are a joy to perform also we know that we are providing the patient  with the best possible solution for his problem
  50. I mean this list case specifically a man in  retention with a 190 gram prostate of course you can do a robotic procedure but you think  about it this patient is going to be out with a catheter tomorrow morning he has no wounds in  the abdomen he didn't need general anesthesia we are doing this under spinal and I think if you  can do this it's difficult to justify I love a robotic surgery but I would never do that to a  patient if I can do this endoscopic nucleation and so my advice would be for those of you who  want to learn to a nucleate would be to go for it I think I don't know anybody who really  wanted to learn who couldn't learn of course you're not going to learn by you know divine  inspiration so you need to learn how to do it
  51. from someone with experience you need to get  all the good advice from different let's say experts in in the matter you have to choose  which advice you're going to follow I mean some advice is better than others you know and  some would say technical tips can have better or worse consequences but in general I think most  colic surgeons are very satisfied with their work to me the main advantage of this approach is  to prevent post-operative stress incontinence I'm quite sure that this patient as well as almost  all my patients are very very happy and Continent after the operation we have a very low rate of  incontinence and when it happens it's usually a result of a hyperactive bladder high pressure  bladder that keeps the patient I say having
  52. urgency for some time most of the patients  recover after some months on these urgency and all these hyperactive bladders we have a few  patients who didn't quite improve and we resorted to Botox to help them especially when they don't  improve after you know six months or even a year we we then try Botox because it tends to help more than oral medications and patches  and everything but I have to say we have a lot of happy patients and they come and  they cheer you I saw one this morning ten years after and he still had away excellent low very  low prostatic volume like 15 grams of prostatic volume wide open bladder neck and patients tell me  every day this was the best decision I took in my
  53. life I read recently that 15% of 2rp patients  are on medications after one year and I think that's probably because in many instances PRP  doesn't remove enough Anoma to solve the let's say hyperactive hyperactive bladder and that's  why I think TRP surgeons should start questioning themselves and thinking there's probably better  operations than T ORP to offer to their patients these patients almost leave the hospital with the  same hemoglobin and they came in probably they lost one gram in the process and they go back  to normal life very fast I operated my brother on a Thursday and he was working in Monday so  of course he had minor symptoms like any other operation there's no operation that won't cause  some discomfort but they are very encouraged by
  54. the huge floor they have after the operation for  many patients with the residual urine being able to empty provides them with very immediate  improvement the empty perfectly so they can hold the urine for much longer they will wake up  less often in the night and now we are progressing faster you see when the piece is  smaller the same kind of suction keeps the there's less inertia and  it's much easier to aspirate the tissue against the jaws you see it's much  more continuous and much faster oscillation see I'm very very static in my position so the bladder is quite safe also I use the  region wolf instruments and I have worked out that I don't need a second irrigation  channel I can modulate continuously like
  55. this without the need for second irrigation  channel so the change of instruments is very fast I don't need to have two other backs  and another irrigation system just change the instrument and most late of course if I  see that I'm not efficient with modulation like those moments when they when you can see  the jar the the jaws of the blades there is water coming out of the bladder you know  you're sucking water out and then if that happens you have to be conscious that you could  be empty in the bladder know about Osito before yeah now the water container  is is getting full so I think still good well yeah I still it's still going so one thing we can try to do is to try  to suck the tissue into the prosthetic
  56. fossa you see suction now it's very poor  no tell you know okay change change the change also the basket has filled  up with tissue so the vacuum has more trouble reaching the tip of the most  later now I'm waiting while my nurse is changing things we have two bottles  of five liters or for dissection and typically it's enough with a bottle in  this case as the prostate is very large we have to change so this is again bladder neck  you see the visibility is quite good and we just have to mostly this piece what I was saying  is if we can lure this prostate into the fossa then the the tissue is going to be trapped in  the fossa so it won't won't go anywhere now we are reaching the proper vacuum stop estamos  yeah no no let me know when it's ready okay
  57. so now you see I bring it in the fossa and then  I can most lady in the fossa but it doesn't go anywhere of course if there's blood in the fossa  you see the visibility gets a little bit damaged so you shouldn't do this when the  visibility is not good let's get back to the bladder I'm fixed in  a safe position I have water now see the tissue is not going anywhere it's  staying with me so I hope to be able to remove it very fast when you see the visibility  inside the fossa is not so good anymore another important aspect is to develop good  habits so I tend to ask my nurses do I have water systematically every time you know you  develop this let's say protocol of safety and you follow it then things are going to be much  safer even the circulating nurse has a very
  58. important role in the operating room because  she has to change the waters and make sure that there's water enough and if she doesn't  do her job then applications might happen so you have to tell everybody and to explain  their important job everybody has in the operating room when you do hope there's no bit  here there's nothing there except some little stones there's no big piece of tissue there is  one in the in the FASTA steel so let's take it out the procedure is finished I'm going to use  a twenty French catheter and 3-way 2020 French 3-way catheter we also have 18 3-way and I leave  a light irrigation for a little while until the the nurses in the in the room consider it's  necessary so if the water is clear they lower the
  59. irrigation and if the water is a reddish they keep  it going and so we have finished the procedure thank you very much for your attention and I hope  you enjoyed the man was up on SS antenna Lalo

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